I think what they're doing in general is great. It's like just get on here and talk about things that you love talking about and will handle the rest. That's certainly the right general approach, but I do think that they're missing this idea of getting into short form audio. And I think that's a thing that Persona has tapped into. Is Maura Live long from audio is great, but the Discover ability in a short form format is really lacking. So that's the part that I think Spotify really needs to play with is think about dropping the bar of creation even lower than anchor on. And I think that's what clubhouses really tapped into its almost zero friction to create, listen and participate, and I think Spotify needs to jump onto that insight.