you know, I think compared to his contemporaries, his basket like he wasn't quite there. His size and his abilities were quite exciting when he was in Washington, in Denver, but yeah, I mean, he's built a really great career, so I don't mean Thio be negative in any way in that regard. But I do think his ceiling was higher than he was able to accomplish, and I think his basketball he was part of the thing that held that back.